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Fandom tags? Or no fandom tags?
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We've been approached several times now about adding fandom tags, seeing as SWS is a large community and tons of post per day. So, we want your opinion. Fandom tags or just leave it how it is.

The good thing about tags is, sometimes people miss post from their fandom friends and this would give them the ability to find them easily. What this bored mod has been doing is compiling a possible list of tags to add. I'd love your input of what tags to have as well concerning fandoms, seeing as I don't know all of them. You can view them below the lj cut below. So leave your opinions. if there's enough 'yay's, then we will start adding them as soon as possible - (I'm going to give it about three days so that people can get their opinions and tag suggestions in.

Edit: clarity on the soon as possible: by this it intentionally meant: as soon as possible being when things are hammered out and a system is devised. and three days meaning: three days for people to get their opinions in (not three days and we're making a decision)


heroes
supernatural
harry potter
original
csi
glee
whoniverse (includes dr who/torchwood/sarah jane)
killjoys
blade
house
the vampire diaries
comics
whedonverse (includes buffy/firefly/dollhouse/whedonstuff)
gossip girl
skins
misfits
the walking dead
lord of the rings
ncis
charmed
inception
fringe
true blood
twilight
mythology

It'd be nice and, as you said, make it easier to find things from friends or just fandom in general (re: new aired episodes). Sometimes looking through everything you can miss it in the amount of posts.

(if yay then sanctuary, stargate & doctor who too?)

Dr who would be included in the whoinverse tag :)

I'm not logging out, but I'm Miri. You know me. Basically, what I think might be a good idea to keep you from getting super overwhelmed is, in the post where it's announced on sws, say that if there's an influx of a new fandom you'll add it yourself, but if you want a fandom added just tell the mods and it'll be added. It saves you a lot of trouble.

Not only do I think fandom tags are totally unnecessary, I fear they will just add clutter to the community as well as create an immense amount of work for the moderators. Who is going to determine when a fandom has enough muses to warrant a tag? And how will the information to add them be communicated? Of course, it's completely up to the moderators how they would like to spend their time and what warrants effort put into the community. But personally, I don't like the idea of it at all. Beyond fearing they will lead to clutter and ridiculous amounts of work, I worry about the elitist nature of them. Most fandom characters I see in sixwordstories come from writers who have no problem in playing cross-fandom. People are already using different sections of the post to indicate their desire as to who replies. Even though I know tagging will be optional, it seems like a good way to create confusion and effectively shut down a significant amount of cross-fandom play.

well for cross fandom, there's still the option of OTA, it would just be a way for people who may not be on a day or two to find post for their fandom mates since in a day sometimes you have to go back 8 to 10 pages for one single day :) I see the point your making though. Thanks for the opinion.

I like the idea, but a lot of people RP from small, obscure fandoms. Would all of those be listed, or have a "miscellaneous" tag, or just go untagged? It's something to think about.

In that case, a miscellaneous tag would be made yes.

if the fandom were to get bigger, then it could get a tag later on down the line.

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I actually love this idea. Like a lot. It seems like you've got most of the more regular canons covered. I'm just curious as to how you're envisioning them being used because some of us cross over into other ponds quite a bit. Would the tag then be utilized for the character's home canon then?

Also, if the nays end up having it, what I usually do when I've been gone for awhile and want to find a particular muse's post, I'll just do the sort by poster option on the comm. Like so... It's also handy for when you're anal and like to link back to entries on the pup journal and forget what all you've posted.

Holy crap. LOL I never knew that sort by poster thing. :| I'm speshul.

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I like the idea.

If nothing else, it would be nice for the OCs in a fandom since the main characters are more recognizable.

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Also when there's only a few players from a fandom around. (Ie when museboxes or people drop out and you have just a couple as with hype goes)

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I say yes. Although I do agree with the issue on the minor fandoms.

Perhaps if we had another tag such as "OTA" or "Cross fandom" that could go along with these fandom ones. So if somebody wanted to hop into another fandom then they would just have to search through the ones tagged as "Cross fandom". Now after refreshing I see something along these lines has already been suggested or whatnot. :/ Still, there you go. A yes from me.

I vote yes, because it would make it more organized.

I'm not sure I understand the need. I think any system would be hard to maintain in an organized way, because this community is so large and there's so much turnover (with characters if not with players).

Then there's the question of what counts as big enough (which I posted above) and what do fandom OCs versus non-fandom OCs use, etc. and a lot of cans of worms that will probably end up causing pointless fighting.

Plenty of dressing-room style communities use tagging, and I understand the draw, but I think on a community as large as this, it's a bit of an unnecessary behemoth. People who want to find posts to tag... do.

I completely agree with this and felt the need to say so. You put it much more eloquently then I.

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Separate tag for every movie?

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I think it would help a lot, but I can imagine doing it retroactively would be painful...

Of course I'd vote for a Highlander tag (How many versions of Methos are there around?), and... I don't know, maybe a 'books' tag for literary characters that don't have a separate more specific tag?

Edited at 2010-11-28 11:31 pm (UTC)

To me it seems unnecessary. I'd like to think that people comment based on the content of the post. Of course I could be wrong, and I don't see so many posts that require actual tags most of that is conveyed in the location and music lines of a post. Though I'm not a part of a big fandom (or any for that matter), so I don't really seek out people only from my series.

How would new tags be added?

I personally think the creation of new tags should be open to everyone. The mods could police the tags page once in a while to make sure everything's going okay, but allowing everyone to make new tags would really lessen the impact for the mods. It would also ensure that every fandom is covered, since individual muns are more likely to know which ones need tags.

This would also lessen the need for grouped together tags, like "whoverse" and "whedonverse" - why would these be grouped together anyway? Especially whedonverse -- just because they're by the same creator doesn't mean they're in the same world or anything.

Also, how many tags would be allowed per post? What if someone has an original character from HP? Could they post the [original character] tag and [book: harry potter] tag, or would this be limited like the roleplay journal/personal journal tags? Would the rp/pj tags be re-done to fit in with the format of the new tags?

I personally think the creation of new tags should be open to everyone.

No, no, no. God no. No. I have been a member of too many LiveJournal communities who have allowed for this kind of thing, and it's the biggest headache of all time. You will end up with half a dozen tags for one single fandom because people will either spell it incorrectly, designate it differently, or even try to push it to the top of the pile by adding unnecessary symbols.

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